This episode of Our Water Connection features a powerful conversation with Professor Phil Duncan about what true partnership with First Nations communities in water management can look like.

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Together, we explore why traditional engagement approaches often fall short, how cultural science and Western science can work side by side, and what it takes to move from consultation to genuine co-design.

 

Phil shares practical examples from projects like the Brewarrina fish passage, reflections from more than 40 years working across communities and government, and a hopeful vision for the future of the water sector.

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This episode is a call for curiosity, courage, and collaboration, especially for the next generation of water professionals. From creating safe spaces for difficult conversations to empowering communities to lead, Phil challenges us to rethink how projects are planned, delivered, and connected to Country.

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We also discuss:

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• What the water sector has learned — and still needs to improve — in working with First Nations communities

• The meaning of cultural science and two-way knowledge exchange

• Why young professionals should not be afraid to challenge the status quo

• The importance of community ownership in water projects

• How purpose-built teams can shape a more inclusive future for water management

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Through stories, reflections, and practical insights, this conversation invites us to think differently about water, leadership, and the relationships needed to care for Country together.

Guest: Professor Phil Duncan

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Professor Leslie (Phil) Duncan is a member of the Gomeroi Nation, his homelands are Moree and Terry Hie Hie. Phil has over 40 years’ experience working with Aboriginal people and government to improve the lives of Aboriginal people through recognition of our rich cultural history, the return of our lands, the improvement of our living conditions and education of our next generation, through both his employment and active volunteer community work. Phil is extremely passionate about promoting greater partnerships and collaborations using two-way knowledge exchanges and enhancing the voices of Traditional Owners in land and water management via the integration of cultural science into western scientific frameworks and models.